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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:44:00 -
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I"m having no problems finding targets. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:42:00 -
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"My flanks are turned; my center is crushed. The conditions are perfect. I shall attack."
- General Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.24 01:25:00 -
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Okay - so let's play this out. Minmatar conquers all of Amarr lowsec systems. Amarr resorts to guerilla warfare and hit and run raids. We see lots of Minmatar chasing few Amarr. And then what?
I'm having a great time, don't get me wrong. Fly to system X. Open a plex. Wait 5 minutes. PvP. I killed 14 pilots yesterday and 11 were solo kills. Yay me. 
However, if I were a dedicated PvPer on the Minmatar side I think I'd be a little sad at the lack of targets right now. The average number in Amarr militia chat yesterday was around 80. I saw that get down as low as 67 and it brushed 121 at one point in time too. Iron Oxide and LNA are well oiled machines. But how long can they keep their pilots happy when there's simply nothing to do? How long before those machines start to rust or suffer attrition? Yes, I'm sure someone will huff bluff about going to Caldari space or taking on Goons. (insert hysterical laughing here) - but is that really a satisfactory response? And will everyone want to do it?
The only real problem with the above is that it means that FW is not it's own system with checks and balances. In the eyes of CCP it is nothing more then a future proving ground for nullsec and wormhole pilots. One side loses and goes to to other things. The other side gets bored and follows. New pilots come in and the process repeats. I just think that FW deserves to be more then that. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:30:00 -
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Than you to whomever necro'd this thread.  |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:05:00 -
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They have posted Winter upgrade ideas in the F&I section. Highlights:
More, better upgrades. At upgrade 5 - temporary one use cyno jammer.
300k to upgrade a system rather then 150k.
Fee to upgrading based on system control. The fee is 75% when you control the majority of the systems. This means it costs 1.2 million LP for Minmatar to raise a system to 5.
LP store prices are constant. WZC affects how fast you earn LP.
Tier 1 - 50%. Tier 2 - normal. Up to Tier 5 - 200%.
Slower upgrade bleed out. 10% per plex rather then the current 50%.
Defensive plex LP. Based on % contested of system. Max 75%. |
Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:00:00 -
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I see nothing but good stuff in the proposals. The gravy train is over. Tier 4 will be the new tier 5. I think Susan Black quoted 6 million LP to upgrade for a spike. That number is now 24 million LP. But really - there will be no spikes anymore. You earn a reflection of where you're at. A system will have to be contested to 50% before all upgrades would be stripped. The upgrades are more robust for industrialists, especially if the devs follow up on their hints to cut high sec efficiency. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:48:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:so hand over the reigns from the 1 day no gun plex alts, to the lvl 4 farm alts?
GG
it was fun while it was fun....
I brought missions up and CCp Fozzie said they were getting looked at. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:34:00 -
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I would absolutely hate a reset. It would be a slap in the face. Let's examine some of the content that's been generated since Inferno:
- Amarr killed a Minmatar Carrier pilot who undocked in Kourm before realizing his militia had lost the system. It was a juicy kill and great drama.
- Susan Black and Poetic Stan both crowed about how Minmatar were going to get a medal for conquering all the systems. A group of diehard Aussie pilots in Sahtogas pretty much said, "**** you, you shall not pass." Absolutely amazing.
- Agony Empire lost all of their belongings within hours of joining FW. They dug deep and reqconquered Kamela within a week. Cue Eye of the Tiger music.
- On the other side of the coin, Minmatar militia absolutely humiliated a nullsec alliance that wanted some quick coin. I think all of us smiled a little.
I want to be in the final push to take Huola. I want to be there when the tide turns. (I was there.. facepalm) What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of Ninlarra! Winter promises to bring 90% of what we want. The LP isk fountain is being reigned in. You have to kill all the NPC's in a plex for the counter to move. You can survive even on Tier One. Plexes will be about PvP more then PvE. If you think missions will still be a problem - go post in the F&I thread as I did that you think so. That's the place to put it. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2012.09.01 10:37:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:I would absolutely hate a reset. It would be a slap in the face. Let's examine some of the content that's been generated since Inferno:
- Amarr killed a Minmatar Carrier pilot who undocked in Kourm before realizing his militia had lost the system. It was a juicy kill and great drama.
- Susan Black and Poetic Stan both crowed about how Minmatar were going to get a medal for conquering all the systems. A group of diehard Aussie pilots in Sahtogas pretty much said, "**** you, you shall not pass." Absolutely amazing.
- Agony Empire lost all of their belongings within hours of joining FW. They dug deep and reqconquered Kamela within a week. Cue Eye of the Tiger music.
- On the other side of the coin, Minmatar militia absolutely humiliated a nullsec alliance that wanted some quick coin. I think all of us smiled a little.
I want to be in the final push to take Huola. I want to be there when the tide turns. (I was there.. facepalm) What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of Ninlarra! Winter promises to bring 90% of what we want. The LP isk fountain is being reigned in. You have to kill all the NPC's in a plex for the counter to move. You can survive even on Tier One. Plexes will be about PvP more then PvE. If you think missions will still be a problem - go post in the F&I thread as I did that you think so. That's the place to put it. While I agree the changes will allow us to pvp in plexes they will still best be done in a pve ship while avoiding pvp. Amarr had to kill all the rats in larger ships for a long time. And for that long time it was always most efficient in a pve ship. CCP passing on the notifications and timer countdown were the 2 most necessary changes - doesn't look like they will happen. I think allot of the things you list will not be happening now that we get lp for defensive plexing. I don't think agony could have taken back kamela if there was lp for defensive plexing. I don't think we would have been able to take kourm either. I don't think amarr would have 50% of the systems 50% contested if we had lp for defensive plexing. I don't think susan would have been eating crow if there was lp for defensive plexing. (the minmafarm would be farming all our vulnerable systems right now and holding them all with farming alts so they could focus on sahtogas.) If we are having trouble taking huola and turning the tide when there is no lp for defensive plexing you can forget about it when ccp changes that up. Pretty much all the good things about the inferno tier system is changing.
Crunch the numbers. The first system the Minmatar upgrade will cost 300k LP. The last system will cost 1.2 million LP. The current war zone has the vast majority of Minmatar staging out of Arzad, Huola, Kourm, and Dal. They don't care if Metropolis gets plexed because they'll just spike it. Now it will cost them in both LP they are earning as well as upgrades which will now be very expensive. A large number will have to peel off from the front. |
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